s4 & gw
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RedRid
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in the end, that's really something that you have to use yourself to find out how it all works for you.
people are very different and they can react very differently to sarms.
that's actually true about all sarms.
for example, while ostarine is among the safest SARMs, i know guys saying they can't tolerate it well, but they cna tolerate more powerful stuff such as testolone easier
Care4Gainz
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problem with burning fat and gaining muscle is that you need different calorie intake. you burn fat with less calories, but you gain muscle with more calories than your mainteannce.
you can do it in case you haven't been working out and dieting, but it's harder if you did. sarms can help, but it very much comes down to your diet and workout plan
considering i'm kinda skinny fat who barely worked out in my life and never been dieting, i assume i could lose fat and gain muscle at the same time now that i started to change my lifestyle in terms of diet and exercise?
RedRid
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yeah, you can stay in calories about the maintenance (some increase with 100-200 kcal/day above maintenance) and with a great diet and workout with added sarms, you're likely to experience body composition (losing fat and gaining muscle at the same time)
Broren21
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yes, people who never exercised and never had a diet can grow muscles and burn fat simultaneously. especially when adding sarms. but it's more effective to follow one goal at a time. for example, first grow muscles, then burn fat.
Care4Gainz
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as these fine gentlemen already said it, that's possible. but it depends on many different things such as your body response and type, your exact diet and exercise plan and so much more
huge thanks everyone for oyur reponses.
do you think i should be keeping calories higher than maintenance depsite wanting to lose fat? I guess I wanna get bigger and stronger rather than skinnier.
also, do you think i'm still going to need to do one cardio day as my trainer suggested? (4 trainings a week, 3 weights 1 cardio).
Broren21
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Yes, about 10-15% is going to be enough. If you're a beginner, you're going to find you lose fat while growing muscles. Of course, with a proper diet and workout
that's what i'm working on now. thanks a lot
Care4Gainz
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agree with @Broren21 could maintain the calories a bit higher if you want to pack on muscles and get stronger. don't forget you need to train for hypertrophy (it usually involves training a muscle group once or maximum twice a week with heavy weights). and eat right. 120% calories from Mcdonalds and 120% calories if clean food are two different things
lately i've been reading about diet plans as much as possible, learning about carbs, fats, protein etc. and you're right.
also been learning about workout plans. thinking about bro split 6 days a week training
about sarms - gw with lgd. later will add s4 to this plan
so far, seem to have good results
Care4Gainz
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for non professional - you're likely to achieve amazing results with that plan 
Broren21
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you made me think about McDonalds and I'm not gonna sleep now
it really seems so! at least, so farfor non professional - you're likely to achieve amazing results with that plan
RedRid
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sorry for late response but yeah, you can. calculate your macros. eat and train well.. you're going to have awesome results.
Care4Gainz
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How did you sleep?you made me think about McDonalds and I'm not gonna sleep now
started the cycle? i see lots of guys saying that lgd + s4 + gw should work even better. or at least lgd + gw? I already got them and will give them a try.