I heard that i can expect crazy results with s4 andarine and gw cardarine, is it true?I'm planning to give it a try. Some can confirm? 75 mg per day of s4 and 30 mg per day of gw for 2 months should do perfectly. your advice? do i need a post cycle therapy for it? do you think it's good enough? Should I add something else? I'm up for options. thanks
s4 & gw
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Care4Gainz
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ever used SARms before? 75 mg/day of S4 is a high dosage for beginners. So is GW 30 mg/day for a beginner. better start with 50 mg/day S4 and maximum 20 mg/day GW. 2 months sounds good
yes, andarine is suppressive so better have nolvadex or clomid
dosages seem a bit high for beginner but otherwise is good
yeah you can add something else, but not for beginners. SR is going to be great for fat loss or YK11 for muscle growth.
Care4Gainz
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the stuff is great, but you need to have some more experience as it can cause some side effects too. Also, start slowly. Like 25 mg a day for 2 weeks. then bump to 50 mg a day for 6 more weeks. I saw guys using 75 mg a day, but that's too much IMO for most people.
Broren21
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depends on various factors. yes, s4 and gw are great, but your diet and workout plan should be on point as well.
2 months (8 weeks) sounds good. But 75 mg a day of S4 and 30 mg a day of GW501516 are high doses. Within range, but on the upper limit. I wouldn't recommend these dosages unless you ever used them separately
depends, but most likely yes because of high dosage of S4.
as i said, depends. If you ever had experience with these compounds and you know your body reacts well to them - you could try it.
I doubt. Some people add something else, but only when they already have enough experience with these compounds
@Care4Gainz explained it well tbh
Care4Gainz
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it actually depends on many different factors. How your body reacts to it, dosage, lifestyle choices etc.
But yes, S23 is not a SARM that you should treat lightly.
is it true that s4 is like an updated version of ostarine?
RedRid
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well... kind of. s4 causes lean muscle growth and burns fat like ostarine, but in a more powerful way. that's why we can say so
Care4Gainz
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with s4 you are likely to lose slightly more fat and get stronger than with ostarine. but some people can't tolerate its side effects. that's why ostarine is generally more popular
it sounds like an awesome cutting cycle
that's for sure. never underestimate the genetics, dosage and other factors. was just talking about S23 vs S4
awesomely helpful post! thanks
can i burn fat and gain muscle with this cycle? i also want gw but with lgd instead of s4 to burn fat and gain muscle. do you think s4 is a better option?
ChuckKnock
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if you never used sarms before, lgd is a better option. generally, LGD is more for "dirty" bulk because it can cause you gain some water retention and a bit of fat. S4 is not causing water retention, but it's not for everyone.